# FIRE Reddit Examples Ingest — Design **Status**: approved 2026-05-28 **Owner**: Viktor **Module**: `fire_planner/examples/` ## Goal Populate the FIRE planner DB with real-world examples of people pursuing or living FIRE across different countries, so the planner can answer questions like: - *"What's the median portfolio for people FIRE'd in the Philippines?"* - *"For a £400k portfolio, where are people living?"* - *"What annual spend do people report in Bali vs Lisbon vs Chiang Mai?"* The data is **informational only** — it feeds a new `/api/examples` endpoint and a small overlay block in the simulator response. It does **not** drive scenario inputs or COL ratios. ## Non-goals - Comments scraping (posts only — comments are ~10× noisier) - Driving COL ratios or scenario priors from scraped data (overlay only) - Continuous streaming (weekly CronJob is enough) - Multi-language (English subs only) - Re-running tax / withdrawal logic on the scraped examples ## Decisions (locked from brainstorming session) | Axis | Decision | |---|---| | Fields per example | Country, city, portfolio_gbp, annual_exp_gbp, age, family_size, fi_status (accumulating / coast / barista / lean / FIRE / fat), is_retired, post_url, source_sub, post_date | | Extraction | Hybrid: cheap regex pre-filter → LLM JSON-schema extract | | LLM backend | Primary: local llama-cpp (qwen3-8b, same instance as recruiter-responder). Tier 2 fallback: claude-agent-service when qwen3 confidence < 0.5 or JSON unparseable | | Subreddits | r/financialindependence, r/leanfire, r/fatFIRE, r/coastFIRE, r/baristaFIRE, r/ExpatFIRE, r/EuropeFIRE, r/FIRE_Ind, r/AusFinance, r/CanadianFIRE, r/UKPersonalFinance, r/financialindependence_UK (12 subs) | | Post selection | top-of-all-time (1000 cap) + top-of-year (~200) per sub. Weekly CronJob delta uses top-of-week | | Reddit access | PRAW with existing app creds in Vault `secret/viktor:trading_bot_reddit_client_id` / `_secret`. user-agent: `fire-planner/0.1` | | Parallelism | Python asyncio (`asyncio.gather` across subs); not literal subagent dispatch | | Module layout | New `fire_planner/examples/` mirroring `col/` shape | | Simulator integration | Informational overlay only — simulator response gains `examples_overlay {median, p25, p75, count, sample_links[]}` keyed by target country | ## Architecture ``` ┌─────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┐ │ K8s Job (bulk one-shot) + K8s CronJob (weekly delta) │ │ ↓ │ │ fire_planner.examples.cli │ │ ├─→ praw_source.py (async PRAW, 12 subs in parallel) │ │ │ gather() top-of-all-time + top-of-year │ │ ├─→ filters.py (cheap regex pre-filter) │ │ ├─→ llm_extract.py (qwen3-8b primary, schema-locked) │ │ │ └─ Tier 2 fallback: claude-agent-service │ │ └─→ service.py (upsert into fire_planner. │ │ fire_example, dedupe by reddit_id)│ │ ↓ │ │ Postgres (pg-cluster-rw, schema=fire_planner) │ │ ↓ │ │ fire_planner.api.examples (FastAPI router) │ │ ├─→ GET /examples?country=PH&fi_status=FIRE │ │ └─→ GET /examples/summary?country=PH │ │ { median, p25, p75, count, sample_links[] } │ │ ↓ │ │ Simulator response gains `examples_overlay` per scenario │ └─────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘ ``` ## Module layout ``` fire_planner/examples/ __init__.py models.py # SQLAlchemy ORM + Pydantic schemas praw_source.py # async PRAW wrapper → RawPost filters.py # MONEY_RE + LOCATION_RE keyword pre-filter llm_extract.py # qwen3-8b call → ExtractedExample + confidence # with claude-agent-service Tier 2 fallback service.py # upsert, dedupe, summary queries cli.py # `python -m fire_planner.examples ingest …` fire_planner/api/examples.py # FastAPI router ``` ## Data model Migration `alembic/versions/0006_fire_examples.py`: ```sql CREATE TABLE fire_planner.fire_example ( id SERIAL PRIMARY KEY, reddit_id VARCHAR(16) NOT NULL UNIQUE, -- e.g. "abc123" source_sub VARCHAR(64) NOT NULL, post_url TEXT NOT NULL, post_date DATE NOT NULL, post_title TEXT NOT NULL, -- extracted fields country VARCHAR(64), -- ISO country name or "unknown" city VARCHAR(128), portfolio_gbp NUMERIC(14,2), annual_exp_gbp NUMERIC(12,2), age SMALLINT, family_size SMALLINT, fi_status VARCHAR(24), -- accumulating|coastFIRE| -- baristaFIRE|leanFIRE| -- FIRE|fatFIRE|unknown is_retired BOOLEAN, raw_currency CHAR(3), -- pre-normalisation currency -- extraction metadata raw_excerpt TEXT, -- ~500-char window -- that produced the data llm_model VARCHAR(64) NOT NULL, -- "qwen3-8b" | "claude-…" llm_confidence NUMERIC(3,2), -- 0.00–1.00 extracted_at TIMESTAMPTZ NOT NULL DEFAULT now(), -- audit ingested_at TIMESTAMPTZ NOT NULL DEFAULT now() ); CREATE INDEX ix_fire_example_country ON fire_planner.fire_example(country); CREATE INDEX ix_fire_example_fi_status ON fire_planner.fire_example(fi_status); CREATE INDEX ix_fire_example_post_date ON fire_planner.fire_example(post_date); ``` Idempotent re-ingest via `reddit_id` UNIQUE. ON CONFLICT DO NOTHING by default; `--reextract` CLI flag re-runs the LLM and overwrites. Currency normalisation at extraction time via existing `fire_planner/fx.py`. ## Data flow 1. **CLI/Job spawns** — reads target sub list (default 12) and `top` modes from config / flags 2. **Fan-out** — `asyncio.gather()` one coroutine per subreddit; each fetches the requested PRAW listings, dedupes by id within the sub, returns ~1100 raw posts per sub for the bulk run 3. **`filters.py`** — keep posts whose title+body match BOTH `MONEY_RE` (`$|£|€|GBP|USD|EUR|million|net worth|portfolio`) AND `LOCATION_RE` (country/city keyword list). Expected survival ~10–30 % 4. **`llm_extract.py`** — POST `{title, body, source_sub}` to llama-cpp endpoint with strict JSON-schema prompt. Returns `ExtractedExample(country, city, portfolio_native, annual_exp_native, raw_currency, age, family_size, fi_status, is_retired, confidence)` 5. **Confidence gate** — `confidence < 0.5` OR JSON parse failure → retry once via claude-agent-service with the same prompt. If still fails, log + skip (counted, never inserted) 6. **Currency normalisation** — `fx.py` → `portfolio_gbp`, `annual_exp_gbp`. Spot rate at `post_date` if available, else today 7. **Upsert** by `reddit_id` (ON CONFLICT DO NOTHING; `--reextract` forces UPDATE) 8. **Prometheus counters**: - `fire_examples_scraped_total{sub}` - `fire_examples_extracted_total{sub,confidence_bucket}` - `fire_examples_llm_fallback_total` - `fire_examples_extract_failed_total{reason}` ## Error handling | Failure | Behaviour | |---|---| | PRAW rate limit | Built-in PRAW exponential back-off; emit `fire_examples_rate_limited_total` | | llama-cpp down | Fall through to claude-agent-service Tier 2 | | claude-agent-service down | Log + skip; record `fire_examples_extract_failed_total{reason="llm_unavailable"}` for later replay | | LLM returns malformed JSON | One retry with stricter "ONLY JSON, no prose" prompt, then Tier 2 | | One subreddit fails entirely | Other 11 still complete (`gather(..., return_exceptions=True)`). Job exits 0 if ≥half succeed; otherwise exit 2 | | reddit_id collision | ON CONFLICT DO NOTHING (idempotent re-run) | | FX rate lookup fails | Insert row with NULL `portfolio_gbp` / `annual_exp_gbp`; record `raw_currency` always | ## API surface ``` GET /api/examples?country=PH&fi_status=FIRE&limit=50 → list of FireExample objects (post_url, portfolio_gbp, ...) GET /api/examples/summary?country=PH → { country: "PH", count: 47, portfolio_gbp: { median: 420000, p25: 180000, p75: 740000 }, annual_exp_gbp: { median: 14400, p25: 9000, p75: 22000 }, sample_links: ["https://reddit.com/...", ...] // top 5 } ``` Simulator response gains an `examples_overlay` block keyed by the scenario's target country, calling the same summary query under the hood. No new auth — same FastAPI router and auth dependency as the rest of the API. ## Testing - **Unit** - `filters.py` regex coverage (money + location keywords; positives + negatives) - `llm_extract.py` with `respx` mocking llama-cpp + claude-agent-service endpoints; JSON parsing + confidence gate + Tier 2 escalation - Currency normalisation paths via `fx.py` (incl. FX-fetch failure) - **Integration** (against test PG, like existing `test_ingest_wealthfolio_pg.py`) - `service.py` upsert / dedupe / `--reextract` paths - Summary query: median / p25 / p75 over realistic mixed dataset - **Fixture-driven regression suite** - ~20 hand-picked real Reddit posts → JSON fixtures in `tests/fixtures/reddit/` with expected `ExtractedExample` per fixture - Lets us regression-test prompt changes against ground truth - **E2E with mocked PRAW + LLM** - `respx` mocks for both; full pipeline → assert DB rows - **No live Reddit hits in CI** — opt-in via `LIVE_REDDIT=1` for local runs only ## Deployment - **Image**: extend existing `fire-planner` Docker image (already has alembic + CLI) - **Bulk one-shot**: K8s `Job` running `python -m fire_planner.examples ingest --all --top=all,year` - **Recurring delta**: K8s `CronJob` (weekly, e.g. Sundays 04:00 UTC) running with `--top=week` - **Vault refs via ESO**: - `secret/viktor:trading_bot_reddit_client_id` → env `REDDIT_CLIENT_ID` - `secret/viktor:trading_bot_reddit_client_secret` → env `REDDIT_CLIENT_SECRET` - **Plain env vars** (Terraform configmap): - `LLAMA_CPP_BASE_URL` (same value as recruiter-responder) - `CLAUDE_AGENT_SERVICE_URL` (Tier 2 fallback) - `REDDIT_USER_AGENT="fire-planner/0.1"` - **Terraform**: extend `infra/stacks/fire-planner/` with the Job + CronJob resources ## Out of scope (explicit YAGNI) - Comments scraping - Driving COL ratios or scenario priors from scraped data - Continuous streaming - Multi-language - Re-running tax / withdrawal sims against scraped examples - Live continuous PRAW IDLE-like stream - UI/frontend (a single React page can come later as a separate spec) ## Open considerations (revisit if signal is bad) - **Confidence threshold 0.5** is a guess. May tune after seeing real qwen3-8b output on a 200-post sample. - **"≥half subs succeed = exit 0"** — if real failure modes correlate (e.g. PRAW outage), this won't help. Alert on `fire_examples_extract_failed_total` ratio instead. - **Top-of-all-time per sub plateaus on whichever ~1000 posts are pinned by historical karma.** Top-of-year + weekly delta provide freshness. ## Migration / rollout 1. Land alembic 0006_fire_examples migration on `pg-cluster-rw` (cluster DB; no downtime — additive only) 2. Land `fire_planner/examples/` module + tests; CI green 3. Land Terraform changes (Job + CronJob) — Job runs once on apply, bulk-populates the table 4. Add `/api/examples` router; bump fire-planner image 5. Add `examples_overlay` to simulator response (last; previous steps are independent) Each step is independently revertable.