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Brainstorm + design doc for a new fire_planner/examples/ module that scrapes 12 FIRE subreddits via PRAW, extracts structured fields with a local qwen3-8b LLM (claude-agent-service Tier 2 fallback), and exposes the data as an informational overlay in the simulator response. Locked decisions: PRAW + asyncio, hybrid regex+LLM extraction, informational overlay only (no scenario-priors coupling), new fire_planner/examples/ module mirroring col/ shape.
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# FIRE Reddit Examples Ingest — Design
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**Status**: approved 2026-05-28
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**Owner**: Viktor
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**Module**: `fire_planner/examples/`
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## Goal
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Populate the FIRE planner DB with real-world examples of people pursuing
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or living FIRE across different countries, so the planner can answer
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questions like:
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- *"What's the median portfolio for people FIRE'd in the Philippines?"*
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- *"For a £400k portfolio, where are people living?"*
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- *"What annual spend do people report in Bali vs Lisbon vs Chiang Mai?"*
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The data is **informational only** — it feeds a new `/api/examples`
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endpoint and a small overlay block in the simulator response. It does
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**not** drive scenario inputs or COL ratios.
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## Non-goals
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- Comments scraping (posts only — comments are ~10× noisier)
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- Driving COL ratios or scenario priors from scraped data (overlay only)
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- Continuous streaming (weekly CronJob is enough)
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- Multi-language (English subs only)
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- Re-running tax / withdrawal logic on the scraped examples
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## Decisions (locked from brainstorming session)
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| Axis | Decision |
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|---|---|
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| Fields per example | Country, city, portfolio_gbp, annual_exp_gbp, age, family_size, fi_status (accumulating / coast / barista / lean / FIRE / fat), is_retired, post_url, source_sub, post_date |
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| Extraction | Hybrid: cheap regex pre-filter → LLM JSON-schema extract |
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| LLM backend | Primary: local llama-cpp (qwen3-8b, same instance as recruiter-responder). Tier 2 fallback: claude-agent-service when qwen3 confidence < 0.5 or JSON unparseable |
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| Subreddits | r/financialindependence, r/leanfire, r/fatFIRE, r/coastFIRE, r/baristaFIRE, r/ExpatFIRE, r/EuropeFIRE, r/FIRE_Ind, r/AusFinance, r/CanadianFIRE, r/UKPersonalFinance, r/financialindependence_UK (12 subs) |
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| Post selection | top-of-all-time (1000 cap) + top-of-year (~200) per sub. Weekly CronJob delta uses top-of-week |
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| Reddit access | PRAW with existing app creds in Vault `secret/viktor:trading_bot_reddit_client_id` / `_secret`. user-agent: `fire-planner/0.1` |
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| Parallelism | Python asyncio (`asyncio.gather` across subs); not literal subagent dispatch |
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| Module layout | New `fire_planner/examples/` mirroring `col/` shape |
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| Simulator integration | Informational overlay only — simulator response gains `examples_overlay {median, p25, p75, count, sample_links[]}` keyed by target country |
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## Architecture
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```
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┌─────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┐
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│ K8s Job (bulk one-shot) + K8s CronJob (weekly delta) │
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│ ↓ │
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│ fire_planner.examples.cli │
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│ ├─→ praw_source.py (async PRAW, 12 subs in parallel) │
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│ │ gather() top-of-all-time + top-of-year │
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│ ├─→ filters.py (cheap regex pre-filter) │
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│ ├─→ llm_extract.py (qwen3-8b primary, schema-locked) │
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│ │ └─ Tier 2 fallback: claude-agent-service │
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│ └─→ service.py (upsert into fire_planner. │
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│ fire_example, dedupe by reddit_id)│
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│ ↓ │
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│ Postgres (pg-cluster-rw, schema=fire_planner) │
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│ ↓ │
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│ fire_planner.api.examples (FastAPI router) │
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│ ├─→ GET /examples?country=PH&fi_status=FIRE │
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│ └─→ GET /examples/summary?country=PH │
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│ { median, p25, p75, count, sample_links[] } │
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│ ↓ │
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│ Simulator response gains `examples_overlay` per scenario │
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└─────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘
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```
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## Module layout
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```
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fire_planner/examples/
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__init__.py
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models.py # SQLAlchemy ORM + Pydantic schemas
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praw_source.py # async PRAW wrapper → RawPost
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filters.py # MONEY_RE + LOCATION_RE keyword pre-filter
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llm_extract.py # qwen3-8b call → ExtractedExample + confidence
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# with claude-agent-service Tier 2 fallback
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service.py # upsert, dedupe, summary queries
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cli.py # `python -m fire_planner.examples ingest …`
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fire_planner/api/examples.py # FastAPI router
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```
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## Data model
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Migration `alembic/versions/0006_fire_examples.py`:
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```sql
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CREATE TABLE fire_planner.fire_example (
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id SERIAL PRIMARY KEY,
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reddit_id VARCHAR(16) NOT NULL UNIQUE, -- e.g. "abc123"
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source_sub VARCHAR(64) NOT NULL,
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post_url TEXT NOT NULL,
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post_date DATE NOT NULL,
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post_title TEXT NOT NULL,
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-- extracted fields
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country VARCHAR(64), -- ISO country name or "unknown"
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city VARCHAR(128),
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portfolio_gbp NUMERIC(14,2),
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annual_exp_gbp NUMERIC(12,2),
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age SMALLINT,
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family_size SMALLINT,
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fi_status VARCHAR(24), -- accumulating|coastFIRE|
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-- baristaFIRE|leanFIRE|
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-- FIRE|fatFIRE|unknown
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is_retired BOOLEAN,
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raw_currency CHAR(3), -- pre-normalisation currency
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-- extraction metadata
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raw_excerpt TEXT, -- ~500-char window
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-- that produced the data
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llm_model VARCHAR(64) NOT NULL, -- "qwen3-8b" | "claude-…"
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llm_confidence NUMERIC(3,2), -- 0.00–1.00
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extracted_at TIMESTAMPTZ NOT NULL DEFAULT now(),
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-- audit
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ingested_at TIMESTAMPTZ NOT NULL DEFAULT now()
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);
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CREATE INDEX ix_fire_example_country ON fire_planner.fire_example(country);
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CREATE INDEX ix_fire_example_fi_status ON fire_planner.fire_example(fi_status);
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CREATE INDEX ix_fire_example_post_date ON fire_planner.fire_example(post_date);
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```
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Idempotent re-ingest via `reddit_id` UNIQUE. ON CONFLICT DO NOTHING by
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default; `--reextract` CLI flag re-runs the LLM and overwrites.
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Currency normalisation at extraction time via existing `fire_planner/fx.py`.
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## Data flow
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1. **CLI/Job spawns** — reads target sub list (default 12) and `top`
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modes from config / flags
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2. **Fan-out** — `asyncio.gather()` one coroutine per subreddit; each
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fetches the requested PRAW listings, dedupes by id within the sub,
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returns ~1100 raw posts per sub for the bulk run
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3. **`filters.py`** — keep posts whose title+body match BOTH
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`MONEY_RE` (`$|£|€|GBP|USD|EUR|million|net worth|portfolio`) AND
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`LOCATION_RE` (country/city keyword list). Expected survival ~10–30 %
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4. **`llm_extract.py`** — POST `{title, body, source_sub}` to
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llama-cpp endpoint with strict JSON-schema prompt. Returns
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`ExtractedExample(country, city, portfolio_native, annual_exp_native,
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raw_currency, age, family_size, fi_status, is_retired, confidence)`
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5. **Confidence gate** — `confidence < 0.5` OR JSON parse failure →
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retry once via claude-agent-service with the same prompt. If still
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fails, log + skip (counted, never inserted)
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6. **Currency normalisation** — `fx.py` → `portfolio_gbp`,
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`annual_exp_gbp`. Spot rate at `post_date` if available, else today
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7. **Upsert** by `reddit_id` (ON CONFLICT DO NOTHING; `--reextract`
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forces UPDATE)
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8. **Prometheus counters**:
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- `fire_examples_scraped_total{sub}`
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- `fire_examples_extracted_total{sub,confidence_bucket}`
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- `fire_examples_llm_fallback_total`
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- `fire_examples_extract_failed_total{reason}`
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## Error handling
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| Failure | Behaviour |
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| PRAW rate limit | Built-in PRAW exponential back-off; emit `fire_examples_rate_limited_total` |
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| llama-cpp down | Fall through to claude-agent-service Tier 2 |
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| claude-agent-service down | Log + skip; record `fire_examples_extract_failed_total{reason="llm_unavailable"}` for later replay |
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| LLM returns malformed JSON | One retry with stricter "ONLY JSON, no prose" prompt, then Tier 2 |
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| One subreddit fails entirely | Other 11 still complete (`gather(..., return_exceptions=True)`). Job exits 0 if ≥half succeed; otherwise exit 2 |
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| reddit_id collision | ON CONFLICT DO NOTHING (idempotent re-run) |
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| FX rate lookup fails | Insert row with NULL `portfolio_gbp` / `annual_exp_gbp`; record `raw_currency` always |
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## API surface
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```
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GET /api/examples?country=PH&fi_status=FIRE&limit=50
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→ list of FireExample objects (post_url, portfolio_gbp, ...)
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GET /api/examples/summary?country=PH
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→ {
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country: "PH",
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count: 47,
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portfolio_gbp: { median: 420000, p25: 180000, p75: 740000 },
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annual_exp_gbp: { median: 14400, p25: 9000, p75: 22000 },
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sample_links: ["https://reddit.com/...", ...] // top 5
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}
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```
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Simulator response gains an `examples_overlay` block keyed by the
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scenario's target country, calling the same summary query under the
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hood. No new auth — same FastAPI router and auth dependency as the
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rest of the API.
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## Testing
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- **Unit**
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- `filters.py` regex coverage (money + location keywords; positives + negatives)
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- `llm_extract.py` with `respx` mocking llama-cpp + claude-agent-service endpoints; JSON parsing + confidence gate + Tier 2 escalation
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- Currency normalisation paths via `fx.py` (incl. FX-fetch failure)
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- **Integration** (against test PG, like existing `test_ingest_wealthfolio_pg.py`)
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- `service.py` upsert / dedupe / `--reextract` paths
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- Summary query: median / p25 / p75 over realistic mixed dataset
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- **Fixture-driven regression suite**
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- ~20 hand-picked real Reddit posts → JSON fixtures in
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`tests/fixtures/reddit/` with expected `ExtractedExample` per fixture
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- Lets us regression-test prompt changes against ground truth
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- **E2E with mocked PRAW + LLM**
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- `respx` mocks for both; full pipeline → assert DB rows
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- **No live Reddit hits in CI** — opt-in via `LIVE_REDDIT=1` for local runs only
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## Deployment
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- **Image**: extend existing `fire-planner` Docker image (already has alembic + CLI)
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- **Bulk one-shot**: K8s `Job` running
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`python -m fire_planner.examples ingest --all --top=all,year`
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- **Recurring delta**: K8s `CronJob` (weekly, e.g. Sundays 04:00 UTC)
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running with `--top=week`
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- **Vault refs via ESO**:
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- `secret/viktor:trading_bot_reddit_client_id` → env `REDDIT_CLIENT_ID`
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- `secret/viktor:trading_bot_reddit_client_secret` → env `REDDIT_CLIENT_SECRET`
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- **Plain env vars** (Terraform configmap):
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- `LLAMA_CPP_BASE_URL` (same value as recruiter-responder)
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- `CLAUDE_AGENT_SERVICE_URL` (Tier 2 fallback)
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- `REDDIT_USER_AGENT="fire-planner/0.1"`
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- **Terraform**: extend `infra/stacks/fire-planner/` with the Job + CronJob resources
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## Out of scope (explicit YAGNI)
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- Comments scraping
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- Driving COL ratios or scenario priors from scraped data
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- Continuous streaming
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- Multi-language
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- Re-running tax / withdrawal sims against scraped examples
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- Live continuous PRAW IDLE-like stream
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- UI/frontend (a single React page can come later as a separate spec)
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## Open considerations (revisit if signal is bad)
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- **Confidence threshold 0.5** is a guess. May tune after seeing real
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qwen3-8b output on a 200-post sample.
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- **"≥half subs succeed = exit 0"** — if real failure modes correlate
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(e.g. PRAW outage), this won't help. Alert on
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`fire_examples_extract_failed_total` ratio instead.
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- **Top-of-all-time per sub plateaus on whichever ~1000 posts are pinned
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by historical karma.** Top-of-year + weekly delta provide freshness.
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## Migration / rollout
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1. Land alembic 0006_fire_examples migration on `pg-cluster-rw`
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(cluster DB; no downtime — additive only)
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2. Land `fire_planner/examples/` module + tests; CI green
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3. Land Terraform changes (Job + CronJob) — Job runs once on apply,
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bulk-populates the table
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4. Add `/api/examples` router; bump fire-planner image
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5. Add `examples_overlay` to simulator response (last; previous steps
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are independent)
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Each step is independently revertable.
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